It is important to remember that for young children it is not the formality of taking the oath that decides whether or not they are going to tell the truth. Their truthfulness is determined—indeed is predetermined—quite simply by whether or not they are truthful children; that is, children who are growing up in an environment where being truthful is a matter of course. To a great many children lies are not at all “lies” in the adult moral sense, but merely fantasy. This does not mean that all children—from whatever environment—do not tell lies at times. But it does mean at least that, for a child who comes from a “truth-oriented” environment, telling a lie under these particular conditions and in answer to a direct question, would be a conscious act—and not easy—while children whose immediate environment is not “truth-oriented” would not necessarily be particularly troubled by such a lie but would consider it a normal, not to say automatic, way of “getting the better” of authority, or of dramatizing themselves in a situation where their own role would otherwise seem negligible. Basically Norma Bell comes from a truth-oriented environment.